Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg has done more to implicate Donald Trump in the past 24 hours than perhaps anyone else during his entire presidency. Yesterday, he went on a veritable media spree — giving several defiant interviews to CNN and MSNBC — all within the span of a few hours.
Things began to heat up when Nunberg phoned in to speak with CNN’s Jake Tapper. Mr. Nunberg is aggrieved that he has been subpoenaed by Mueller and says he absolutely will not testify. Then Nunberg spouts off a series of revelations to Tapper.
- “I mean… I despise Corey [Lewandowski]. Why would I communicate with him? Hope Hicks… who was having an affair with Corey… and I would communicate?”
- “I am not a fan of Donald Trump. He treated me like crap.”
- “All we were doing is trying to get Corey [Lewandowski] fired.”
- “Donald Trump caused this — because he’s an idiot.”
- “Sarah Sanders, if she wants to attack me, I can attack her.”
- “I think Mueller has enough on Trump, he doesn’t need me…” “They know, they know something on him [Trump]…”
When asked directly by Tapper whether he believes President Trump’s perpetual denial that he was aware of that notorious June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower, Nunberg says:
“No. And, Jake, I’ve watched your news reports — you know it’s not true. He talked about it a week before!”
Nunberg made it clear to Tapper that while he does not respect James Comey, he hold admiration for Robert Mueller “professional person” and an “honorable man.” Nunberg puts a really fine point on the fact that his refusal to comply with the subpoena is not a reflection on Mueller but rather on the amount of time it would take for him to sort through the emails, and his legal costs. There is also an ever-present sense of incredulity about some of the communications requested. Regarding Carter Page in particular, Nunberg tells Tapper:
“Carter Page? Do you think that I would communicate with Carter Page? Carter Page is a scumbag. So… the answer is no… and Carter Page was colluding with the Russians.”
Nunberg also spoke today with CNN’s Gloria Borger. He then spoke with MSNBC’s Katie Tur and Ari Melber respectively. Mr. Nunberg largely repeated the same talking points.
One notable bombshell during the Katy Tur interview emerged towards the end of the interview:
“I spoke to Steve Bannon for the first time, last week, after I went in there [presumably his interview with special counsel investigators], and I spoke to him, and Steve and I were discussing how we both feel, Katy, like I’m telling you, that Trump very well may have done something during the election.”